Comments on: Passing the TOEFL http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/ babblings! Sat, 19 May 2012 09:14:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Scott Dier http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1580 Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:31:23 +0000 http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1580 Any countries you'll refuse to study in? Mostly just wondering, many schools I've heard in the USA have noticed a marked decline of applications due to the new student visa policies. As a datapoint, looks like where I work its about $7-8k/yr for non residents. http://onestop.umn.edu/onestop/Tuition_Billing/Tuition_Rates/Graduate_School_Tuition_Rates.html Any countries you’ll refuse to study in? Mostly just wondering, many schools I’ve heard in the USA have noticed a marked decline of applications due to the new student visa policies.

As a datapoint, looks like where I work its about $7-8k/yr for non residents.

http://onestop.umn.edu/onestop/Tuition_Billing/Tuition_Rates/Graduate_School_Tuition_Rates.html

]]> by: a. http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1365 Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:42:10 +0000 http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1365 <blockquote>In France we have that chance that our tuition fee is very low</blockquote> Ca n'est pas une chance. C'est une volonté politique.

In France we have that chance that our tuition fee is very low

Ca n’est pas une chance. C’est une volonté politique.

]]> by: arno http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1249 Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:42:52 +0000 http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1249 <i>Universities there are really-really expensive, especially for foreigners.</i> Ca dépend dans quel cadre on part, s'il s'agit d'une démarche autonome ou d'une démarche inscrite dans un programme d'échange. Dans le cadre d'un programme (genre CREPUQ ou ISEP), le cout d'inscription est celui de la faculté en France. Donc ca peut etre très interressant. Après, les places ne sont peut etre pas très nombreuses ... (désolé je cause trop mal la langue de Mr Bean pour poster des messages décents ;). Utilisez google translation ou un truc du genre si vous voulez me comprendre dans une autre langue :p) Universities there are really-really expensive, especially for foreigners.

Ca dépend dans quel cadre on part, s’il s’agit d’une démarche autonome ou d’une démarche inscrite dans un programme d’échange.

Dans le cadre d’un programme (genre CREPUQ ou ISEP), le cout d’inscription est celui de la faculté en France. Donc ca peut etre très interressant. Après, les places ne sont peut etre pas très nombreuses …

(désolé je cause trop mal la langue de Mr Bean pour poster des messages décents ;). Utilisez google translation ou un truc du genre si vous voulez me comprendre dans une autre langue :p)

]]> by: Sami Dalouche http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1248 Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:21:51 +0000 http://machard.org/blog/index.php/archives/2005/01/08/passing-the-toefl/#comment-1248 Hi Pierre, In which university are you currently studying ? (I'm french too, my engineering school is ISTY(http://www.isty.uvsq.fr), in Versailles). Studying in the USA is a great idea, but frankly... only do it if you've got lots of money.. Universities there are really-really expensive, especially for foreigners. Plus, finding a "cheap" university isn't really the way to go.. Decent universities there cost a lot, and you'd better take a good one, otherwise you may be disapointed by the pitiful level there.. For example, I have an american friend who did his studies from CM2 to Terminale in France. He was pretty good, and was averaging 14 / 20 in Terminale S. (OK, he was good, but not exceptionally good) He then came back to the states, to learn Computer Science in UCI (University of California, Irvine). Now, he averages a GPA of like... 3.9997 / 4. He's one of the best students in his university, just because others are really bad. And UCI is a pretty good university.. So imagine a crappy one.... UCI costs him $8000 IIRC. So, for foreigners, it should be something between $8000 and $16,000... Good luck.. Sam PS: why not considering a small engineering school like mine ? you'll have plenty of time to work in the USA once you finish your studies. Hi Pierre,
In which university are you currently studying ?
(I’m french too, my engineering school is ISTY(http://www.isty.uvsq.fr), in Versailles).

Studying in the USA is a great idea, but frankly… only do it if you’ve got lots of money.. Universities there are really-really expensive, especially for foreigners.

Plus, finding a “cheap” university isn’t really the way to go.. Decent universities there cost a lot, and you’d better take a good one, otherwise you may be disapointed by the pitiful level there..
For example, I have an american friend who did his studies from CM2 to Terminale in France. He was pretty good, and was averaging 14 / 20 in Terminale S. (OK, he was good, but not exceptionally good)
He then came back to the states, to learn Computer Science in UCI (University of California, Irvine). Now, he averages a GPA of like… 3.9997 / 4. He’s one of the best students in his university, just because others are really bad. And UCI is a pretty good university.. So imagine a crappy one….

UCI costs him $8000 IIRC. So, for foreigners, it should be something between $8000 and $16,000…

Good luck..
Sam

PS: why not considering a small engineering school like mine ? you’ll have plenty of time to work in the USA once you finish your studies.

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